How do I audition for the secular American-Jew spot? I got takes, ladies. So much to say about Kanye but, to keep it short, I hope he’s napping somewhere and no one lets him make any large purchases.
100% agree with Yael about left-wing vs right-wing antisemitism. Right-wing is like, of course. Left-wing sucks because if you’re liberal like me -- and maybe this is where secular US Jews are more affected (see, you need me) -- youd like to think you share the same political values as people on the Left but Progressives are practically pushing Jews out of the Democratic Party.
ChayaLeah, I totally grew up being told that everyone hates Jews and they’ll always blame us for something. Verbatim.
Welp, that’s enough from me. You know where to find me for these hot Jew in the Wild takes. And glad ChayaLeah made it through the holiday season!!!
The Kanye stuff made me wonder if there will be a transfer for wokeness to the right. Kanye shows how living through the framework of Oppressed Victiminhood (CRT / critical social justice theory / etc) is traumatizing in itself. Increasingly people are switching sides bc of how fundamentalist and absurd and hypocritical has become, but it makes me wonder if some of their ideologies will transfer over as well. Kanye’s perspective is still compatible with the leftist perspective that black people are the most oppressed, and that Jews are privileged. Really the antisemitism (amongst other issues) on both the right and left are mirror images of one another, just expressed through a different cultural class context. Black Hebrew Israelite ideology honestly makes perfect sense to me as a grande finale of wokeness, it’s like it comes full circle:
But overall I agree with your take on it. Left wing antisemitism is more grating and insidious bc it comes with more self righteousness, double standards, passive aggression etc. Right wing antisemitism is just has hateful but maybe it’s more honest about what it presents itself as.
Christian confession time: I envy the Jews. I feel bad about that bc the Holocaust, antisemitism, tay sachs,, but it’s true. I envy the family, the traditions, the option to live in community with others going all in on the religion or not so much and everyone still considering each other part of the same tribe. I envy that the Jews don’t proselytize, they can be very religious AND still dgaf what others believe as long as the Jews are allowed to practice and believe what they want.
I mean, I’m still Christian because I believe in the saving grace of believing in Christ’s forgiveness and because it’s the faith I was born into and I see value in practicing a healthy faith that is one’s family and cultural tradition, if one is so lucky to be born into a healthy enough faith tradition, but man... the Jews do faith so beautifully and I wish my faith did a lot of things like the Jews.
Kanye's statements make me think he picked up this Evangelical Christian attitude: we know as much or more about the Jews than they do! I think this stems from the idea that the Protestant Christian Biblical canon is literally the only correct faith tradition, in short, that Evangelical Christianity is the fulfillment of Judaism. It's sort of a condescending and incredibly naive viewpoint. On the positive side, Evangelicals really get into supporting Israel. So there's a fondness, but it comes across mainly as a confused fascination more than anything.
Also, florid, poorly controlled mania can resurrect every stupid junior high conspiracy theory. I feel sorry for the guy, but I wouldn't hire him as a spokesperson.
How do I audition for the secular American-Jew spot? I got takes, ladies. So much to say about Kanye but, to keep it short, I hope he’s napping somewhere and no one lets him make any large purchases.
100% agree with Yael about left-wing vs right-wing antisemitism. Right-wing is like, of course. Left-wing sucks because if you’re liberal like me -- and maybe this is where secular US Jews are more affected (see, you need me) -- youd like to think you share the same political values as people on the Left but Progressives are practically pushing Jews out of the Democratic Party.
ChayaLeah, I totally grew up being told that everyone hates Jews and they’ll always blame us for something. Verbatim.
Welp, that’s enough from me. You know where to find me for these hot Jew in the Wild takes. And glad ChayaLeah made it through the holiday season!!!
The Kanye stuff made me wonder if there will be a transfer for wokeness to the right. Kanye shows how living through the framework of Oppressed Victiminhood (CRT / critical social justice theory / etc) is traumatizing in itself. Increasingly people are switching sides bc of how fundamentalist and absurd and hypocritical has become, but it makes me wonder if some of their ideologies will transfer over as well. Kanye’s perspective is still compatible with the leftist perspective that black people are the most oppressed, and that Jews are privileged. Really the antisemitism (amongst other issues) on both the right and left are mirror images of one another, just expressed through a different cultural class context. Black Hebrew Israelite ideology honestly makes perfect sense to me as a grande finale of wokeness, it’s like it comes full circle:
https://themetamodernlibrarian.substack.com/p/thoughts-on-horseshoes-and-conspiracies
But overall I agree with your take on it. Left wing antisemitism is more grating and insidious bc it comes with more self righteousness, double standards, passive aggression etc. Right wing antisemitism is just has hateful but maybe it’s more honest about what it presents itself as.
Christian confession time: I envy the Jews. I feel bad about that bc the Holocaust, antisemitism, tay sachs,, but it’s true. I envy the family, the traditions, the option to live in community with others going all in on the religion or not so much and everyone still considering each other part of the same tribe. I envy that the Jews don’t proselytize, they can be very religious AND still dgaf what others believe as long as the Jews are allowed to practice and believe what they want.
I mean, I’m still Christian because I believe in the saving grace of believing in Christ’s forgiveness and because it’s the faith I was born into and I see value in practicing a healthy faith that is one’s family and cultural tradition, if one is so lucky to be born into a healthy enough faith tradition, but man... the Jews do faith so beautifully and I wish my faith did a lot of things like the Jews.
Hahahahaha. I love the podcast.
Kanye's statements make me think he picked up this Evangelical Christian attitude: we know as much or more about the Jews than they do! I think this stems from the idea that the Protestant Christian Biblical canon is literally the only correct faith tradition, in short, that Evangelical Christianity is the fulfillment of Judaism. It's sort of a condescending and incredibly naive viewpoint. On the positive side, Evangelicals really get into supporting Israel. So there's a fondness, but it comes across mainly as a confused fascination more than anything.
Also, florid, poorly controlled mania can resurrect every stupid junior high conspiracy theory. I feel sorry for the guy, but I wouldn't hire him as a spokesperson.